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Gasol - this may have some legs.

[From the Diaries. Man I hope Gasol is truly on the block, as it's becoming less and less likely Garnett will be. Plus as we've theorized before in this space, Gasol may be a more desirable target due to his age, contract, and trading price.

Oh, and GO BEARS!. I'm channeling my inner 'we don't get no respect' Bear when I say this, but a win would be sweet to shove in the faces of the ESPN dopes and all those who think this game is owed to the Saints because their city is wet. -Matt]

Peter Vescey is reporting - -

Sources throughout the NBA disclose the 7-foot Gasol, an elite post-up performer, as tough a cover as there is within 15 feet of the rim, suddenly is eminently obtainable. Distressed at management's rebuilding-with-adolescence mood, the 271/2-year-old has asked to be traded to a playoff-positioned ensemble that, of course, would be instantly transformed into a legit title contender.

The offended Grizzlies aim to oblige.

I put this out there with utter certainty. Infallible informers report Grizzlies president Jerry West has explored prospective trade arrangements with at least three teams regarding Gasol. In order to protect my sources, the only one I'm willing to identify for the time being is the Bulls.

That may be enough. Obviously, Gasol's low-dock dealing (averaged 18.5 points on 50.5 field-goal accuracy his first five seasons as a pro before missing most of this season due to foot surgery) is what Chicago's off-shore drilling outfit needs.The Bulls also own what Memphis wants, namely Luol Deng ($2.6 million) and Ben Gordon ($3.86M). In order to satisfy salary/transaction specs, Chicago would have to include P.J. Brown ($8.56M). I'm told the Grizzlies are prepared to add Hakim Warrick ($1.2M) to a pot that so far does not include draft picks; Gasol currently is on the books for $12.8M and is owed $63M over the next four seasons.

That's as far as the exchange of ideas has progressed, so I'm told. As enthralled as Bulls vice president John Paxson surely must be by the opportunity to fill his team's lone conspicuous cavity, people in the organization claim he won't pull that particular trigger.

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Here' s the most interesting part:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212007/sports/pau_er_brokers_sports_peter_vecsey.htm?page=0

""Giving up Gordon and Deng would be very difficult," a Bulls insider insisted. "John will never go there. Not even if Scott Skiles and the rest of the coaching staff is beating on him to make that swap, which isn't the case."

As rapper DMX woofs, "Bad decisions lead to last decisions." Parting with the pair might prove to be just that bad, the same Bulls insider feels.

"Does Pau get you to the promised land minus both those players? We doubt it. He's an All-Star-caliber player, no question. But we're not sure he can be the best player on a playoff team expected to accomplish something significant," the insider said."

by Big D on Jan 21, 2007 11:17 AM CST   0 recs

This rumor is coming from
the New York Post?

It's bullshit.

"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 11:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

The Post is a very respectable paper
Compared, say, to the Enquirer and Weekly World News.

by Big D on Jan 21, 2007 11:21 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

The Post is about as accurate as
the Washington Times.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 11:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Vescey at least works real sources
He doesn't make trades up like Sam (although Sam admits as such).

Sometimes Vescey's right...but he's wrong a lot too. Maybe I just want him to be right in this case.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 21, 2007 12:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Right about
giving up Deng, Gordon, and a first-round pick to get Gasol and Warrick, or just right about getting Gasol?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 12:09 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

just want him to be right about
Gasol being available. I still don't think it makes sense for Memphis, but their loss...

I think the 'Bulls insider' response about Gordon/Deng was pretty predictable.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 21, 2007 12:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Why Deng?
Why not Ty?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 11:17 AM CST   0 recs

Ehhh Deng and Gordon?
seems like Paxson needs to shake down West a bit. I'd like to see them keep Gordon here. We are over loaded at the 3. I think Hinrich and Deng might more sense. Let Sefo start at the 2?

Gordon
Sefo
Nocioni
Gasol
Wallace

I don't know? The NBA is uninteresting right now. To me atleast. I haven't watched a full game in months. Yeah I think the Bulls do need to change course maybe. All in all I'd rather see Hinrich go then Gordon.

by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Jan 21, 2007 11:23 AM CST   0 recs

ugh
JoJo"credibility"English94bulls4ever

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 21, 2007 11:36 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Why not just refer to him as
"Fox News" instead?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 11:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

if you dont watch games
dont comment....deng and hinrich would be ludacrous

by milesgmsu on Jan 21, 2007 12:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Why was that
directed at me?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 12:29 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm guessing
that was for our buddy jojo (joejoe)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 21, 2007 12:33 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I thought
someone might have finally figured out my deep, dark secret that I've never watched a basketball game before in my life.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 12:35 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

my bad

by milesgmsu on Jan 21, 2007 12:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

No way can we give up Deng AND Gordon
I doubt Paxson would give them both up for Garnett, so there's no way we trade them for Gasol.  I don't blame West for aiming high at first, but he has to know that trade isn't happening.

by Big D on Jan 21, 2007 11:25 AM CST   0 recs

i shit fairies before paxson gives up on deng
seriously, i'm really not kidding.
WE ARE... PENN STATE

by NittanyBull on Jan 21, 2007 11:43 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I feel like trading deng and Gordon
is just plugging one hole while creating another hole elsewhere, maybe 2.

by tal1286 on Jan 21, 2007 11:25 AM CST   0 recs

exactly
Thabo....the accent is sweet!!

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2007 11:34 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

There may be more to come
Vescey also said - -

"But don't misunderstand; this negotiation is only in its infancy. What's more, now that Gasol's availability is public, the bidding for his services figures to take a quantum leap."

Maybe the Bulls get give up some draft picks and Nocioni to get Gasol.

chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 11:31 AM CST   0 recs

The last Gasol diary
straight from my golden keyboard, has some trade machine links. I don't like Warrick, and I really don't like giving up Deng or Gordon.

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 21, 2007 11:47 AM CST   0 recs

The trade suggestion
still won't work.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 11:54 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I didn't realize
it would be scrutinized by a seasoned fantasy basketball GM. Sorry. Not that I brought up an old diary to be scrutinized. I just wanted to add some info to the first 'real' trade rumor of the season.

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 21, 2007 12:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

yeah it may not work
but that scenario would be a dream. Maybe to protect  giving up Tyrus (let alone Gordon or Deng) they can take back even MORE salary?

http://tinyurl.com/2jglf7

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 21, 2007 12:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

i think if we're not going to trade a core member
brian cardinals going to be a given.....you would need the knicks pcik and probably some 2nd rounders in their too....maybe the bulls own 08 1st rounder?

by milesgmsu on Jan 21, 2007 12:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Noc is pretty expendable
Give them him.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 12:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I like the idea of taking more salary
to protect talent, and possibly getting a veteran guard like Stoudamire to hit shots off the bench.

Feel free to scrutinize this one. Honestly, who would rip an old trade idea?

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 21, 2007 1:42 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Careful...
Can you sue for plagiarism in the blogosphere, Matt?

by ChrisRobin on Jan 21, 2007 10:15 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Whoops
I think tinyurl needs to work on making their hyperlinks stand out a little more. Either way Sam Smith's thoughts on this seem a little more reasonable (Jerry West probably wants more than Nocioni, expiring contracts, and picks), but it's nice to read Sam isn't excited about sending Hinrich, Gordon, or Deng out of town.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070121bullstrade,1,7693323.story? coll=cs-bulls-headlines

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 21, 2007 10:31 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

FUCK RIGHT GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 12:50 PM CST   0 recs

Don't give up Deng or Gordon
Unless it is a straight up trade.  Otherwise, Noc or Tyrus and the expiring contracts and some picks.  I'd give up any of our picks they want.  When someone is looking to get out and the onus is on them to move the player, you don't pay top dollar.

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2007 1:02 PM CST   0 recs

As the trading deadline approaches - - -
- - this may become more interesting.  If Memphis really is going to move him they will probably get their best deal before the deadline.  I am not sure, but isn't the deadline around February 15th?  The Bulls do have the need but I don't think they will depart with Deng or Gordon.  The Bulls have draft choices and PJ's expiring contract that provide them a real edge over other teams to make a deal.  Gasol is only 27 1/2 years old.
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 1:05 PM CST   0 recs

hi from spain
i heard this rumour in the radio, and i thought deng an gordon were too much in exchange for gasol even if you add warrick to the trade. i don't know how this will end, but Gasol wants to be traded and if it possible he prefers east conference team.
Bulls can get a good pair with wallace and gasol so i hope the trade is finally made (i think gasol hopes too) but giving both deng a gordon is not necessary

by spainisdifferent on Jan 21, 2007 1:26 PM CST   0 recs

Deng AND Gordon
is way too much. If Gasol wants to be traded, I really think Paxson could manage a trade without either of them, although one being included is more likely. Deng has more potential, but there's something about Gordon's clutch shooting that makes me feel he's more valuable in the long term.

Getting Gasol would be great, but not to the point of creating other holes. You get rid of Gordon, and back court scoring is going to take a huge dive.

by nas on Jan 21, 2007 1:40 PM CST   0 recs

Noc, Sefo, Victktor, PJ and the Knick draft pick
Memphis is hurting financially and this would really help them.
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 2:47 PM CST   0 recs

gasol
we could always draft his brother with a second round pick (marc gasol i believe is his name).

by Sambossanova on Jan 21, 2007 3:17 PM CST   0 recs

WOW
I just saw this for the first time. I think the Bulls have to get Gasol. Not by giving up Deng and Gordon obviously.

I think Memphis just had to aim high. You always do. I think giving them Brown, Gordon, and the Knicks pick should work.

The draft pick is more and more looking like its gonna be a late lottery pick and I don't think the backcourt will suffer that much. We will be better defensively.  Hinrich would be giving the green light to take more shots, which isn't a bad thing. Sefo would allow us to get nice size back there for once.

Oh and remember. Griffin DID start in the Finals last year.

Hinrich
Sefolosha
Deng
Gasol
Wallace

With Noc coming and Du coming off the bench. To me, this team would resemble Dallas a whole lot but with some great defense.

Terry/Hinrich
Deng/Howard
Gasol/Dirk
Dampier/Wallace
Stackhouse/Noc

by Option27 on Jan 21, 2007 3:20 PM CST   0 recs

Whatever happened to
Lowry?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 3:52 PM CST   0 recs

Also...
If we're going to give up Gordon and another core guy, let's say Noc, why not make it a 2008 first-round pick unless Memphis wants to send us a decent SG back?

Da Bears are back......

"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 3:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

injured
Lowry broke his wrist, he was starting to get some PT before it happenned

by NY Chicago Fan on Jan 22, 2007 12:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

MOTHERFUCKER SON OF A BITCH
That's it, I jinx Da Bears when I'm online.

Looks like Urlacher could out-run Bush in a sprint though.

"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 3:56 PM CST   0 recs

B Wallace, Gasol and TT together
Thinking of next year - - above is potentially a dominating front line.
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 4:53 PM CST   0 recs

I think
Pax would much rather send them Ty than Deng and could easily work it out because Memphis knows they're high-balling it by asking for Deng, Gordon, and first-round pick.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 4:57 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Agree about Deng - -
- - but I would like to keep TT.  I do think Gasol is a real possibility.  It sounds like Memphis and Gasol really want something to happen.  I wonder who the other two teams are that Vescey is referring to?
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 5:08 PM CST   0 recs

I wouldn't guess so
considering Gasol said he wants to go to a contender.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 7:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Didn't Pau say
he wanted an Eastern Conference team?
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 8:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Maybe we get lucky
It could be that we are the only real viable candidate for Gasol.  As we close in on the trade deadline we may be able to steal him.  Memphis cannot afford to keep him.
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 21, 2007 8:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

They won't deal him for peanuts
We'd have to give up some shiny stuff.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 21, 2007 8:37 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Let's get this straight.
Real reasons Hinrich hasn't been discussed in this trade:
  • He wasn't mentioned in the article.
  • He's relatively expensive, so including him in the trade goes completely against Memphis' motivation to do this.
It has nothing to do with any excessive love for Hinrich on this blog.  And for the millionth time, Deng will never play the two, he was a power forward in college for god's sake, can't shoot the three, and isn't quick enough to defend at shooting guard.  Also for the millionth time, Gordon is not a point guard.  He turns the ball over enough as it is playing off the ball.

by Eddy Currys Broken Heart on Jan 21, 2007 11:30 PM CST   0 recs

hi again
gasol wants a title contender in first place
or/and team where he can be all-star again in second(and that's quite easier in the east).
now gasol is in loser team and play all-star game with duncan, garnet, stoudemire, yao, nowitzki ... is very very difficult.
by the way the only rumour that has appeared in the news in the last months was boston (it was said that boston offered anyone for gasol).

 

by spainisdifferent on Jan 22, 2007 1:31 AM CST   0 recs

Here's what I say we give up.
If they're rebuilding as they say they are, we should give them Nocioni, Duhon, Brown, and our first round pick in this draft, which we wouldn't need if we got a legit 7-footer, as that's what we're targeting in the draft.  That should make the money work, and they get three guys that can start in the NBA and a high draft pick courtesy NYK, which could immediately turn them around.

That leaves us

Hinrich/Sefalosha
Gordon/Griffin
Deng/Khyrapa
Gasol/Thomas
Wallace/Sweetney

The bench isn't that great, with only Sefalosha and Thomas being the only above average talents, but that starting 5 could win the title.

by PGHcager on Jan 22, 2007 4:57 AM CST   0 recs

it is in the newspaper
today this rumour appears in www.marca.com which is on of the most important sport newspaper in spain. the opinion is the same as here if bulls give gordon and deng they won't have options to title this year but the press also wants gasol out of memphis.
according to marca.com the trade could be gasol and warrick for gordon, deng and pj brown

by spainisdifferent on Jan 22, 2007 5:10 AM CST   0 recs

The Memphis Commercial Appeal view
Grizzlies center Pau Gasol won't say as much but his actions and agent have delivered the message.

The 7-footer wants out of Memphis.

Given Gasol's play and the feelers his agent, Arn Tellem, have lobbed around the NBA recently, the Grizzlies are suddenly forced to consider their future without someone they've deemed the franchise player.

Gasol made trade overtures before and after Mike Fratello was fired, according to team insiders. The Spaniard dodged the question when asked Sunday if he's demanded a trade at any point this season.

"I don't want to comment on that right now because I don't want it to be a distraction to me or the team," Gasol said. "It's not beneficial to anybody. Whatever happens is yet to be seen."

Reached Sunday while traveling, team president Jerry West acknowledged a reported conversation with the Chicago Bulls.

West characterized the discussion as cursory to reveal Gasol's availability on the trade market. Bulls general manager John Paxson, however, never mentioned players that he would offer for Gasol.

"The conversation was brief," West said. "But we're not giving him away. This franchise won't give him away. Period."

Gasol, who has four years and more than $60 million left on a maximum contract, is one of the few skilled post players in the league. Still, a Gasol deal with the Bulls could be consummated if they were willing to part with guard Ben Gordon and forward Luol Deng.

Even Griz majority owner Michael Heisley softened his past stance on keeping Gasol, saying he seconded West's sentiment.

Gasol, like anyone on the roster, can be had at the right price.

"If we trade Pau we're looking to substantially improve the team for the future or we would be looking to get more picks in this draft," Heisley said. "If we can improve the team, we would trade Pau. But there's a difference when you've made up your mind like with Jason Williams and Bonzi Wells. Pau Gasol is not available in that sense. I don't make trades. But if Jerry came to me with a trade that would improve this team, Pau will be traded. Jerry is always exploring possibilities."

Heisley also had this message for potential suitors.

"If you think Pau is on a fire sale list, you're crazy," Heisley said. "I like the young man a lot. There's no question he's the only franchise-type player we've got. ... Whether you trade Pau or not depends on what's brought to you."

Privately, the organization is growing dissatisfied with the effort Gasol has brought to work. The perception is that Gasol's lackadaisical defensive and rebounding performances coupled with inconsistent offense are by design to emphasize his desire for a trade.

Asked his thoughts on the team's direction, Gasol sounded concerned.

"I don't really know the direction of the franchise," he said before adding that he ultimately wants to play for a winner.

"Everybody wants that," Gasol said. "Personally, to me, it's really important to be in that situation and have a chance to grow."

chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 22, 2007 7:00 AM CST   0 recs

gasol
does he really play no defense? WEll i mean is he a below average defender or jsut not a strong rebounder? cause id really like ben wallace play weak side.

by Sambossanova on Jan 22, 2007 11:11 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm not sure about Gasol's defense - -
but Wallace seems like the perfect side-kick for him.  I think Gasol fits perfectly into our team.  Again, the key issue is who do we give up to get him.
chgobr

by chgobr on Jan 22, 2007 12:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I WANT HIM!
If the Bulls can get Gasol without trading Deng and Gordon, Paxson will truely be the genius we all think he is.

by Option27 on Jan 22, 2007 10:19 AM CST   0 recs

I sedond that!
He is the guy to take us to that next level that everybody always likes to refer to.  I would even be willing to part with Chapu.  And given my feelings about him, that means a lot.

Although, I would love to see Noc and Pau talking trash about an Arenas or Billups (in spanish) on the court together.

The red and white

by Scott 9 on Jan 22, 2007 10:24 AM CST   0 recs

should read "second that"...
not a great typer..
The red and white

by Scott 9 on Jan 22, 2007 10:25 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

History of Big Mid Season Trades
Help me out here, I am having trouble remembering more than one time that a midseason trade has been made for an elite player that actually made the receiving team a legit title contender.  That's Rasheed.  And I'm not talking about adding a player that is just rounding out the starting 5, like Nazr to the Spurs, or Tim Thomas to Phoenix.

This year we already have one major midseason trade in Iverson.  That one is interesting, but I don't think it makes them better than Phoenix or the Mavs.

I'm sick of my name, damn gwkd.

by GWKD on Jan 22, 2007 10:36 AM CST   0 recs

Iverson
We'll get to find out soon now that Mr. Punch Happy is back.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 22, 2007 10:38 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

that's no help. again, the question is . . . . .
what big mid season trades have won a team a title?
I'm sick of my name, damn gwkd.

by GWKD on Jan 22, 2007 11:13 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

In recent memory
(and I'm not even sure if it was a trade, also these weren't all mid season deals) Clyde Drexler, Sheed, and Shaq are the only 'star' players that have changed uniforms while still playing at a high level and won a championship.  

by Paxson Jackson on Jan 22, 2007 11:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

thanks.
that's what I thought.  It's probably because elite players are so rarely available mid-season than these trades would necessarily fail.    

But I think team chemistry is so important in basketball that signing a star who would now be the focal point of the offense and defense could set the team back, at least initially.  And it's no guarantee that the Bulls can get a title this year.

But, if it helps them get a title next year, then I'm all for it.  

I'm sick of my name, damn gwkd.

by GWKD on Jan 22, 2007 11:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Can Rudy Gay
play SG?  I know Lowry is a G, but he's been out forever and Memphis would most likely want Hinrich in that deal.
"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 22, 2007 10:37 AM CST   0 recs

what memphis really wants and what they can get
The bulls are obviously not going to give up BOTH gordon and deng for warrick and gasol...

I think it(obviously) comes down to if the grizzlies will ahve any better options and what gasol wants.  Hopefully theres not much of a market for the grizz and they will be looking for savings.  Otherwise, i really dont think the bulls can match up talent wise  without giving too much.  The grizz can def get a 12-15 million salary dumpt, we are the team to go for that...But i dont know if we can offer them equal talent like they seem to want.  One of the los angeles teams might be better for that.

I hope no one minds me asking but if we had to trade  either deng or gordon, who would you rather it be? Gordon would seem to complement gasol more but deng seems to be the golden boy of potential.Whatever happens, shouldnt trade noc and gordon because our outside shooting would suffer too much. Can someone also explain (even if its for the 10th time) what the complications with trading hinrichs recently extended contract is and the complications with trading the Knicks pick.      

by Sambossanova on Jan 22, 2007 11:05 AM CST   0 recs

Stuff
If I had to pick either Gordon or Deng as the only core member going to Memphis for Gasol, I'd have to pick Deng unless we were getting a good SG in return.  Yep, losing Deng would suck, but we have loads of depth at SF/PF and guys, like Noc and Ty, who can easily help make up for the loss.  We don't have another good SG to take Gordon's spot and that would almost kill our outside game since Du sucks and Thabo isn't ready.  

Trading Hinrich isn't very complicated.  The restriction on him is called PPP, Poison Pill Provision, and basically says that since he signed an extension during his rookie deal that starts following his fourth season, his trade value for this year only is average of this year plus what he's making under his extension.  It averages out to about $8.2m I believe (so $8.2m X 6 years = Hinrich's salary this year + his extension value).

I'm not 100% sure about the deal with the Knick's pick, but I think it's that we don't actually OWN the pick, just the right to SWAP picks.  If we trade away our pick, the team receiving it wouldn't be allowed to swap picks with the Knicks because the contract signed said only the Bulls had the right to swap.  This could be wrong, but I think that's it.  If we wanted to give them our pick, they could get it but wouldn't be able to swap with the Knicks.

Besides, if we get rid of Gordon without getting a good SG in return, we'd definitely need to keep our 2007 pick because we'd need a SG to replace him.

"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 22, 2007 11:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

the way around knicks pick
is saying the right to a future 1st round pick, or future considerations

by milesgmsu on Jan 22, 2007 1:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

whoop whoop
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=10~99~2377~2175~130~996&teams=29~29~29 ~29~4~4

and a pick

hinrich/sefolosha
gordon/griffin
deng/nocioni
gasol/thomas/khryapa
wallace

it won't happen, but i think that's a best case scenario for the bulls. They just make sure tht either gasol or wallace is on the court at all times. And they address the backup center problem in the off-season.

by tyger1147 on Jan 22, 2007 2:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

What's in it for Memphis
Realistically if Memphis is going to trade their best player then West needs a combination of 3 things to show their fans.

Salary relief, Young talent & draft picks.

If you look at Memphis' roster the contract that really sticks out is Cardinal's (3 years 19.000 Mil left after this year.) If we took Cardinal off their hands they could accept less talent in return. The problem is that when you add Cardinal's contract to Gasol's you are at 17.7 Million and for the Bulls to match that you need Brown and probably 4 other players. How about Brown, Duhon, Deng, Thomas & Eisley's contract. Would you make that deal? They might take Nocioni instead of Thomas. Would you take that? How about Allen and the draft pick instead of Thomas?If you take Deng out of the trade I don't see Memphis making it.  

If we take Cardinal out of the deal then Memphis will want more young talent not less in return. To match Gasol's salary You would need Brown, Deng, Sefalosha & the draft pick. Would you make that deal?

Ye OldeBull

by OldeBull on Jan 22, 2007 11:55 AM CST   0 recs

I honestly feel
that if we give up Deng, it would have to be straight up for Gasol. Nothing more. Deng has a whole lot of value.

by Option27 on Jan 22, 2007 12:15 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not going to happen
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2429~996&teams=29~4

I really don't think Memphis is serious by asking for Deng, Gordon, and first round pick for Gasol and Warrick.  They're high-balling.

"all the girls loved BJ." -sue369

by Colossus on Jan 22, 2007 12:21 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

my bad
I know a straight up trade for Deng wouldn't work but you get my point.

by Option27 on Jan 22, 2007 12:22 PM CST to parent up   0 recs